It'll lead to a more decentralized social network, a more open-source platform, federation across instances, shared protocols, and users in charge of their own "Personal Data Repositories" that they can easily share and move around.
I'm really wondering what's the point. If you're a company like Twitter, that has already been struggling to turn profitable for the past decade, what's the point of pouring even more resources into rebuilding ActivityPub from scratch instead of reusing what's already available?
@blacklight I think their point is simple. They want to be in control. They want to be the one to be "the great minds behind this new big thing". Using ActivityPub would mean to admit anyone can do what they do.
@blacklight I see a couple possible reasons:
- Making use of Twitter's established userbase
- Drawing people away from alternatives like Mastodon and the Fediverse as a whole
- Giving people the illusion of control over their data and decentralization.
A decentralized technology... from Twitter? Doesn't that sound funny already? 😂
@ledom @blacklight or even simpler, vaporware that will never get anywhere, but by existing and sporadically publishing updates will keep the discussion away from the existing solutions. The timing of this useless drop after years of nothing, so coincidental with the growing interest in #Mastodon and the #Fediverse is at the very least suspicious.
@webmink I feel like this long-running struggle between standardization institutions and large IT corporations has been detrimental to technology in so many ways. This is Embrace-Extend-Exterminate happening against and again.
ISO/IEEE/W3C struggle to get standards adopted because Twitter/Google/Microsoft/Facebook push their own weight behind their own standards, and they usually win because of their sheer market share.
Eventually, those large corporations converge on solutions similar to those proposed earlier by the community or by the committees, but rebranded and structured in a way that makes inter-operability hard.
But the time that goes between e.g. ISO proposing a standard, and big tech embracing something at least similar to it, are years of innovation that are lost. And their eventual dominance on the market also diminishes the role of committees and institutes that used to play a crucial role in innovation.
@blacklight See also SVG. Microsoft was actually on that committee but when they lost the vote to have their approach adopted they went off and deployed their own thing in defiance of the standard. It took years before they finally admitted defeat.
@blacklight I suspect Eugen has unearthed the answer here: https://mastodon.social/@Gargron/108247340054414616
"identity is tied to something that looks a lot like a blockchain"
@lrhodes after reading a bit of the specs, I can say that #Bluesky looks a lot like #ActivityPub, but with a "consortium" (that, I guess, will be at least initially headed by Twitter itself) that owns a sophisticated network of content filtering (through crawling, aggregation, moderation and ranking) that will make it nearly impossible for small instances to show up in a federated timeline.
The architecture document doesn't go much in detail to explain how such consortium would operate, but some of the phrases (append-only ledger of document IDs, votes/stakes etc.) remind me some of the things I read on this old article: https://hackernoon.com/how-to-decentralize-twitter-956a37da.
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