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K-9 has been acquired by and will soon become mobile, and I have a mixed feeling about it.

I have recently migrated to K-9 as an Android mail client after the drama that recently happened with .

Being an independent developer of an open-source mail client for mobile isn't easy. The developer of FairEmail has recently been quite open about the levels of stress he has been going through - also because of Google's harassment always looking for ways to take down his app.

So the shielding of Mozilla can definitely help and ensure that an email app keeps getting developed and supported. Sure, it's also an implicit admission that they've screwed up so much their mobile app strategy that they had to pick an open-source app built by a random guy and ask him if that could become the new Thunderbird mobile.

But I can't help with the feeling that independent developers who build stuff that big tech mafia dislikes can only keep doing so if they are protected by another company or by a foundation.

blog.thunderbird.net/2022/06/f

@blacklight
honestly, I respect that they took a well used well tested codebase than trying to reinvent the wheel, especially mobile requires a very different interface paradigm and priorities. that is one of the points of FLOSS, reusability of code.

@eylul sure, but the absence of Thunderbird on mobile for so many years has always been a major pain point for me. I've always wondered why Mozilla couldn't invest some resources to build an email app that could compete with all the proprietary email apps out there.

And today they have announced that another well-known open-source app will become Thunderbird mobile, and the developer has been hired by Mozilla. Just a little bit of rebranding on the app, a change of name, and that's it.

Of course, this is how FLOSS works, and if somebody has already built a better solution then it's better to use that solution. But it still doesn't look good on Mozilla: they should have invested on a mail client for mobile already years ago.

@blacklight
I mean by that definition they also gave thunderbird to the community. (as in stopping developing it and giving it to the community) I think for a while group thinking was in effect. there was a huge hype in tech circles about how desktop email clients were a thing of past and everything must be in the web. now they are beginning realize people still prefer and use native apps and third party mobile clients. xD

@blacklight I somewhat feel your pain, but calling the ‘awesome and already for many years so’ K9 app just “an open-source app built by a random guy” is underserving the random guy…

@douwe no intention of being underserving: K-9 is an amazing app and I haven't missed FairEmail at all since migrating.

But it's still a single-developer app, and Mozilla simply decided to hire the developer and put its name on the app instead of building their own in all these years. I'm happy for K-9 getting recognition, but this move still has a bit of a bitter taste.

@blacklight Thunderbird isn't Mozilla, hasn't been in a long time. Mozilla made it independent, and now it's managed and run by a separate body.

Mozilla couldn't keep investing in an existing desktop email client, so I don't know why you expected them to invest in creating a new mobile email client from scratch.

@aqeeliz @blacklight mozilla is not involved at all in this issue, right?

@blacklight or a great recognition of a single persons work... and hopefully a bright future now it is backed and will get more resources dedicated to it...

@blacklight I joined FairEmail just as that drama happened (I think you mean Google being frustrating and the dev saying they gave up?) And was really happy to see the dev come back after resolving whatever. Maybe I should be concerned about volatility but I love the app now and... I was excited for Thunderbird to drop a brand new mail client (with syncd feeds...and calendar support...) K-9 is great but idk...

gonna ride with FairEmail and also wire up Nextcloud mail probably for the one-stop-shop experience of feeds/cal/mail

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